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@ 2006-09-21 – 13:38:35
Old Miss Universe between 1952 to 1956.
Miss Universe 2002 to 2005
Beauty is forever same or different? What is your take on the matter?
(p.s.: sorry for the catchy title. sorry if anyone of you disappointed by the pictures. if you think that it was cheap attempt to draw attention, then you are probably right.
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Znethru
Pro 
voxpopuli
These are not just good looking women. They are supposed to have beautiful brains too.
cormacksdad
Beauty exists in everything! It's down to you as the viewer to discern it. Failure to discern this all encompassing beauty should start ringing alarm bells. You really need to be open to all things to truly accept this belief system.
voxpopuli
Beautiful thought.
By the way which belief system you are refering to?
cormacksdad
Any belief system that espouses the view that "Beauty is in all things" really.
A later poster mentioned that some people like lizards and others prefer butterflies. Or something similar.
I guess my point is this: Your personal preferences don't make things beatiful. It's not the things fault that your preferences are fucked up! It's down to you to teach yourself about you. Not the objects around you. If your understanding of what is beatiful comes from the material world - it will be limited?
voxpopuli
Material world? Is there any eauty in material world and materialism?
I was just refering about beauty of woman. Women are human beings. Do they part of material world?
cormacksdad
The Material World: This palce that we inhabit. I can discern Beauty in the Material World. Women inhabit the Material World. Therefore: All Women are Beautiful.
Now, the statement above will have some say: Bollocks! Not all Women are Beautifull - check out Margaret Thatcher. Well, I would say her physical being is not the only thing that makes her Beautiful. There are other Qualities that are not discernable to all, that make her Beatifull. Aesthetics are not limited to Physical Structures.
Materialism: Utter Shite! If this is the limit of your world it is a sad place indeed.
It would probably be easier to backward engineer (if you like) why something IS not beautiful. Does the object of your scrutiny hold no redeeming features? Are you bright enough or willing enough to accept that things are beatiful and perhaps it's your issue that you cannot see what beauty exists.
Discuss
voxpopuli
When did I say that there is no beauty in everything? Everything is has its own beauty. I was just appreciating beauty of women. They are so beautiful. Aren't they?
some people like butterflies, others like lizards.....it the imperfections that are what makes someone beautiful
voxpopuli
Thats nice. Nothing is perfect. So everything is beutiful.
sandra_timpson
Is famine beautiful?
voxpopuli
No. Neither poverty and violence.
But I know there are people who search beauty in that. Reality tours world over arrange tours to slums in third world countries to entertain people who derive pleasure after watching filthy life of poor people.
For violence I know people are mad of action movies and shootig games.
So people tend to find beauty in everything.
cormacksdad
Sorry! Never meant to imply anything by my comments. Yes! Women are beautiful. My wife is 9 months pregnant. She looks beautiful but, given her current situation she now and then spews forth the most diabolical filth! Is it just me or do normal liberal women become complete right-wing facists in the latter stages of pregnancy?
voxpopuli
I think there are many psychological updowns during pregnancy due to various reasons. Not sure about turning to right wing fascism.
Can you elaborate bit so that I can guess what exactly is happening.
cormacksdad
Normally my wife is pleasant, polite and reserved. The other night we were watching some news broadcast about the Youth of today..........you know the usual 'hoody' crap. At this my wife began ranting about 'those kind of people', you know? A kind of 'round the little bastards up and shoot'em' mentality. The rant widens to take in more of societies groupings and decends into a fre for all 'string 'em up' diatribe.
I think it must have something to do with hormones and her natural desire to protect her brood if you like?
I am sure this happened with our first born also.
voxpopuli
This is bit perplexing. Usually woman's protective drives about child is different from other female spacies. She become more careful and loving about life. She tend to think against killing of anyone, even potential perceived threat to her child. That is the beauty of woman. What is happening to your wife I think is less biological, harmonal then social.
Do she get impression that if she says such things then you would be more happy? I am asking it coz your suport is the most important thing for her this last stage of pregnancy. She can go to any extent to please you.
cormacksdad
Nice one! Never thought of it quite in this way. This would imply that she maybe thinks I am a right-wing facist?
voxpopuli
Yes probably.
One thing when you say right wing fascist I get feeling that thee are two wings of fascists, left and right, you know in addition to Bush invented Islamic Fascism.
I used to think that there is only one fascism.
cormacksdad
Thanks for the invitation!
Your a bit of a philospher I think?
voxpopuli
No dear. I am layman. Doesn't mean laymen are not philosophers but certainly I am not.
In one sense everyone is philosopher unto oneself.
Love.
2002 and 2004 look good :-)
voxpopuli
It seems our choice is similar.
Though one should keep in mind it is not full picture of a person. One is not sure after looking at full pic, one may think that 1952 is more then good. Who knows?
1952 looks a bit like marylin monroe
voxpopuli
Oh yes. She have similar but bit innocent looks. I an unable to make out whether there is crown on her head o just bunch o hairs.
Have you noticed the quality of photos in diferent periods. That will also have impact on their appeal.
it looks like a crown to me.
i had noticed the picture quality yes, but id just dismissed it as one of those things really. ive seen a recent pic of liz hurley taken in a manner that makes it look like an old pic
voxpopuli
Thats true. Picture quality cannot minimise appeal of many faces. For some photo quality plays vital role. Now many models fall in love with photographers as they discover altogether different beauty in their own photos.
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I've been out with at least 5 or 6 better looking women than that motley selection - one was a Brooke Shields lookalike.